I have a 1600 gph wave maker can I use that in my 36 gallon bow front tank or is that too strong? It is in the tank now and it’s not blowing anything around. Just wondering if i should get a different one.
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Oh so it might not be strong enough? I do have another wave maker I used for my 13.5 gallon that i could add. It was for up to a 20 gallon but I’m not sure the gph.It should be okay, gives you a turnover rate of about 45 times. This falls within the lower but acceptable range of turnover rates for SW tanks.
It should be fine!Oh so it might not be strong enough? I do have another wave maker I used for my 13.5 gallon that i could add. It was for up to a 20 gallon but I’m not sure the gph.
That sounds very strong. A 50g is about 300gph and a 38 would be about 240Gph. I recommend a pump like Jebao RW-4I have a 1600 gph wave maker can I use that in my 36 gallon bow front tank or is that too strong? It is in the tank now and it’s not blowing anything around. Just wondering if i should get a different one.
Just to confirm Vette are you sure on those calculations? I got 50 - about 30gph and 38 - about- 42 gph. (Unless I’ve got my equations somehow confused)?That sounds very strong. A 50g is about 300gph and a 38 would be about 240Gph. I recommend a pump like Jebao RW-4
Koralia nano pumps also good
for an Lps and soft coral tank, you can get buy with 10-30x turnover. For SPS, some have over 80-100x turnover rate.
It's not too strong, but a lot will depend on livestock choices. I have a 32 gallon with a Nero 3 on ones side and a wavemaker on the other, both exceed 2000 gph but I have acros in a mixed reef and neither are maxed out.I have a 1600 gph wave maker can I use that in my 36 gallon bow front tank or is that too strong? It is in the tank now and it’s not blowing anything around. Just wondering if i should get a different one.
Nothing is blowing around very much. No sand movementHow do things look? I couldn't even tell you the flow rate of my powerheads. I just watch the things in the tanks and judge by that. Coral movement, sand being blown etc. But more if in doubt.
So do I take the gph and divide it by the gallons to get the turn over rate? If that is correct I guess I’m on the low sideIt should be fine!
To clarify a few details:
Your wave maker is not the only thing that contributes to this turnover rate number, so does your pump and other power heads.
The turnover rate has quite a broad range (40-120) with most reefers opting for a middle range 75-90. But even now there isn’t an agreed magic number.
I should also clarify there is a different turnover rate of DT only and when you include your sump and display!
This would be insane if we were to calculate each wave maker along with return pumps , skimmer ectJust to confirm Vette are you sure on those calculations? I got 50 - about 30gph and 38 - about- 42 gph. (Unless I’ve got my equations somehow confused)?
pretty sure my sicce pump outputs ~8000gph for my 180gallon. Which seemed like a lot but is barely enough flow for my tank if power heads are off.
Yup that’s correct! And then when you include the sump volume, you include the return pump gph in the calculations!So do I take the gph and divide it by the gallons to get the turn over rate? If that is correct I guess I’m on the low side
Yes, as I noted before it’s not an exact science, nor is there a magic number to shoot for. I wasn’t suggesting you calculate every piece of equipment in your tank for gph, I was speaking purely to the original comment asking if 1600gph is too much for 36 gallons. I personally agree that observing the effect on sand/corals/water agitation is an easier way to go about it. However, in some cases people want to decide whether equipment is suitable before putting it into the water, in which case I find that the gph (if stated by the manufacturer) calculated into a turnover rate for the tank can help with those estimates. And it’s not like I came up with the methodology or the number range.This would be insane if we were to calculate each wave maker along with return pumps , skimmer ect
I would have to convert my jeabo pumps to gallons per hour
If a pump lets use any jeabo wave maker for an example .Yes, as I noted before it’s not an exact science, nor is there a magic number to shoot for. I wasn’t suggesting you calculate every piece of equipment in your tank for gph, I was speaking purely to the original comment asking if 1600gph is too much for 36 gallons. I personally agree that observing the effect on sand/corals/water agitation is an easier way to go about it. However, in some cases people want to decide whether equipment is suitable before putting it into the water, in which case I find that the gph (if stated by the manufacturer) calculated into a turnover rate for the tank can help with those estimates. And it’s not like I came up with the methodology or the number range.
To top it off, I think most reefers realize that there are several other factors that come into play including equipment placement location, orientation, rock scape, tank shape and more.
That I think is another topic altogether about the accuracy and consistency of manifacturer claims.If a pump lets use any jeabo wave maker for an example .
do they actually produce what manufacturers claim ?
Exactly, and that’s before we even get into the science of cross flow and counter flow! Enough to make your head explode!another thought just to muddy the water a bit. it's not only flow rate -GPH but flow type to, a small narrow pump VS a wide flow pattern of the same GPH is going to have a very different effect on the tank.
also is it constant flow vs pulsing vs random. I know lots of factors to think about.
I was gonna add that but did not want to scare the OP away.Exactly, and that’s before we even get into the science of cross flow and counter flow! Enough to make your head explode!
Off topic but awesome Diving photo as your avatar! Where were you?I was gonna add that but did not want to scare the OP away.