How to build a custom dual stage CO2 regulator.

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Hello Everyone!

I have been building custom CO2 systems for planted tanks. I want to start off by sharing my knowledge with you guys on how to build a quality CO2 system to use with the calcium reactor. There are commercial CO2 systems that anyone can purchase. However, there is a DIY route. We can build a high quality industrial grade CO2 system with a few parts for the same price.

The parts you will need are:

1) Regulator

I suggest using a dual stage regulator as some single stage regulators will most likely to experience end of tank dump. When your CO2 tank is full, everything works as expected. End of tank dump occurs when the tank gets near empty and the pressure drops. This causes more CO2 to get into your tank and will suffocate your livestocks. You will need a dual stage regulator that has a working pressure at anywhere between 15 PSI to 100 PSI. Higher working pressure will also work but it's a little harder to adjust because the output pressure gauge is more sensitive.
Here are a few things to look for when you are hunting for a regulator:
a) High pressure gauge should read from 3000 PSI to 4000 PSI. The low pressure gauge should read from 30 PSI to 200 PSI. Most regulators are usually equipped with a low pressure gauge that reads double the max working pressure (output pressure). For example, if you see a regulator with a 100 PSI low pressure gauge, this means the working pressure is usually 40 to 60 PSI. In most case it only required 20 PSI to 30 PSI of working pressure to diffuse CO2 into the calcium reactor. You can go lower than 20 PSI but the injection is not as stable.

b) Stainless steel and brass regulators - A stainless steel regulator will cost more than a brass regulator. It usually retails for $600+. These are designed for high purity and corrosive gasses. However a brass regulator will do the job. You just need to be careful when placing it near salt water.

c) Brand - There are more than a dozen brands. The most popular brands among the planted tank hobbyist are Victor HPT500 (brass), Victor SGT500 (SS), Matheson 3810 (SS), Concoa 432 (SS), and Concoa 312 (brass). These regulators are often rebranded to a third party like Air Products, Airgas, Harris, Praxair, Linde, just to name a few...


Where to buy these regs? Ebay, bio surplus sites, Craigslist.....
I would pay up to $100 for a used unit in good condition and up to $160 for a brand new SS unit.

2) CGA 320 nipple and nut
CGA-320 is the American standard thread found on Co2 tanks. Most regulators you find on Ebay or surplus sites will have different CGA connection. To make it work with your CO2 tank, you will need a CGA 320 nipple and nut. Your local welding place is a good source or online stores.


3) Fittings
There are many ways to put together a CO2 system. These are the fittings that I normally use.
-1/4 male NPT x 1/4 male NPT hex nipple (Swagelok cross ref. SS-4-HLN-200 or 150. 200 is 2 inches. 150 is 1.5 inch)
-1/4 female NPT x 1/8 male NPT elbow (Swagelok cross ref. SS-4-RSE-2)
-1/8 male NPT x 1/8 male NPT elbow (Swagelok cross ref. SS-2-SE)


*The SS in front of the Swagelok part # stands for Stainless Steel. Substitute it with a B if you want brass.

5) Burkert 6011 solenoid (1/8 NPT)
This is one of the most reliable solenoids and is proven by the hobbyists.

6) Metering Valve
Metering valve is the most vital part. A good unit will provide you with a precise and constant CO2 reading.
There are a few good metering valves such as Swagelok S series (SS-SS4), Ideal V54-1-12, Hoke 1300 series and etc.,. Bear in mind that not all metering valve will work. We only use medium flow and low flow valves for our purpose. The metering valve I'm using is a Hoke 1300 series. This valve required tube fitting reducer 1/4 in. x 1/8 in tube OD (Swagelok SS-400-R-2) to mount the CO2 tubing.

Here are some regulators I built for my tanks.
IMG_4323.jpeg
IMG_2448.jpeg IMG_1238.jpeg IMG_0176.jpeg IMG_0286.jpeg IMG_0285.jpeg
 

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Only a question does co2 drop your ph . I don’t know so asking the question thanks
 

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Hello Everyone!

I have been building custom CO2 systems for planted tanks. I want to start off by sharing my knowledge with you guys on how to build a quality CO2 system to use with the calcium reactor. There are commercial CO2 systems that anyone can purchase. However, there is a DIY route. We can build a high quality industrial grade CO2 system with a few parts for the same price.

The parts you will need are:

1) Regulator

I suggest using a dual stage regulator as some single stage regulators will most likely to experience end of tank dump. When your CO2 tank is full, everything works as expected. End of tank dump occurs when the tank gets near empty and the pressure drops. This causes more CO2 to get into your tank and will suffocate your livestocks. You will need a dual stage regulator that has a working pressure at anywhere between 15 PSI to 100 PSI. Higher working pressure will also work but it's a little harder to adjust because the output pressure gauge is more sensitive.
Here are a few things to look for when you are hunting for a regulator:
a) High pressure gauge should read from 3000 PSI to 4000 PSI. The low pressure gauge should read from 30 PSI to 200 PSI. Most regulators are usually equipped with a low pressure gauge that reads double the max working pressure (output pressure). For example, if you see a regulator with a 100 PSI low pressure gauge, this means the working pressure is usually 40 to 60 PSI. In most case it only required 20 PSI to 30 PSI of working pressure to diffuse CO2 into the calcium reactor. You can go lower than 20 PSI but the injection is not as stable.

b) Stainless steel and brass regulators - A stainless steel regulator will cost more than a brass regulator. It usually retails for $600+. These are designed for high purity and corrosive gasses. However a brass regulator will do the job. You just need to be careful when placing it near salt water.

c) Brand - There are more than a dozen brands. The most popular brands among the planted tank hobbyist are Victor HPT500 (brass), Victor SGT500 (SS), Matheson 3810 (SS), Concoa 432 (SS), and Concoa 312 (brass). These regulators are often rebranded to a third party like Air Products, Airgas, Harris, Praxair, Linde, just to name a few...


Where to buy these regs? Ebay, bio surplus sites, Craigslist.....
I would pay up to $100 for a used unit in good condition and up to $160 for a brand new SS unit.

2) CGA 320 nipple and nut
CGA-320 is the American standard thread found on Co2 tanks. Most regulators you find on Ebay or surplus sites will have different CGA connection. To make it work with your CO2 tank, you will need a CGA 320 nipple and nut. Your local welding place is a good source or online stores.


3) Fittings
There are many ways to put together a CO2 system. These are the fittings that I normally use.
-1/4 male NPT x 1/4 male NPT hex nipple (Swagelok cross ref. SS-4-HLN-200 or 150. 200 is 2 inches. 150 is 1.5 inch)
-1/4 female NPT x 1/8 male NPT elbow (Swagelok cross ref. SS-4-RSE-2)
-1/8 male NPT x 1/8 male NPT elbow (Swagelok cross ref. SS-2-SE)


*The SS in front of the Swagelok part # stands for Stainless Steel. Substitute it with a B if you want brass.

5) Burkert 6011 solenoid (1/8 NPT)
This is one of the most reliable solenoids and is proven by the hobbyists.

6) Metering Valve
Metering valve is the most vital part. A good unit will provide you with a precise and constant CO2 reading.
There are a few good metering valves such as Swagelok S series (SS-SS4), Ideal V54-1-12, Hoke 1300 series and etc.,. Bear in mind that not all metering valve will work. We only use medium flow and low flow valves for our purpose. The metering valve I'm using is a Hoke 1300 series. This valve required tube fitting reducer 1/4 in. x 1/8 in tube OD (Swagelok SS-400-R-2) to mount the CO2 tubing.

Here are some regulators I built for my tanks.
IMG_4323.jpeg
IMG_2448.jpeg IMG_1238.jpeg IMG_0176.jpeg IMG_0286.jpeg IMG_0285.jpeg

Looks like some of your setups are using a Clippard solenoid valve, but haven't seen the body it mounts into before. Have a part number?
 
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Looks like some of your setups are using a Clippard solenoid valve, but haven't seen the body it mounts into before. Have a part number?
I don't have the part number on top of my head. It's the only 1/8 npt body from them. Another good solenoid is the Burkert 6011A.
 

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Nice write up. Too bad many on here think the gold standard is the carbon doset lol. Which has no good parts compared to what you show in Your pictures. I personally use victor and Harris branded for my tanks
 
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Nice write up. Too bad many on here think the gold standard is the carbon doset lol. Which has no good parts compared to what you show in Your pictures. I personally use victor and Harris branded for my tanks
Yes most people opted in for the carbon doser. The only drawback of that regulator is it doesn't come with a proper needle valve. The co2 output is controlled by a solenoid which opens and closes. It can be catastrophic if that solenoid got stuck open.
 
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I just built this stainless IR6000 system. The metering comes with a vernier handle for precise tuning.
 

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Hello Everyone!

I have been building custom CO2 systems for planted tanks. I want to start off by sharing my knowledge with you guys on how to build a quality CO2 system to use with the calcium reactor. There are commercial CO2 systems that anyone can purchase. However, there is a DIY route. We can build a high quality industrial grade CO2 system with a few parts for the same price.

The parts you will need are:

1) Regulator

I suggest using a dual stage regulator as some single stage regulators will most likely to experience end of tank dump. When your CO2 tank is full, everything works as expected. End of tank dump occurs when the tank gets near empty and the pressure drops. This causes more CO2 to get into your tank and will suffocate your livestocks. You will need a dual stage regulator that has a working pressure at anywhere between 15 PSI to 100 PSI. Higher working pressure will also work but it's a little harder to adjust because the output pressure gauge is more sensitive.
Here are a few things to look for when you are hunting for a regulator:
a) High pressure gauge should read from 3000 PSI to 4000 PSI. The low pressure gauge should read from 30 PSI to 200 PSI. Most regulators are usually equipped with a low pressure gauge that reads double the max working pressure (output pressure). For example, if you see a regulator with a 100 PSI low pressure gauge, this means the working pressure is usually 40 to 60 PSI. In most case it only required 20 PSI to 30 PSI of working pressure to diffuse CO2 into the calcium reactor. You can go lower than 20 PSI but the injection is not as stable.

b) Stainless steel and brass regulators - A stainless steel regulator will cost more than a brass regulator. It usually retails for $600+. These are designed for high purity and corrosive gasses. However a brass regulator will do the job. You just need to be careful when placing it near salt water.

c) Brand - There are more than a dozen brands. The most popular brands among the planted tank hobbyist are Victor HPT500 (brass), Victor SGT500 (SS), Matheson 3810 (SS), Concoa 432 (SS), and Concoa 312 (brass). These regulators are often rebranded to a third party like Air Products, Airgas, Harris, Praxair, Linde, just to name a few...


Where to buy these regs? Ebay, bio surplus sites, Craigslist.....
I would pay up to $100 for a used unit in good condition and up to $160 for a brand new SS unit.

2) CGA 320 nipple and nut
CGA-320 is the American standard thread found on Co2 tanks. Most regulators you find on Ebay or surplus sites will have different CGA connection. To make it work with your CO2 tank, you will need a CGA 320 nipple and nut. Your local welding place is a good source or online stores.


3) Fittings
There are many ways to put together a CO2 system. These are the fittings that I normally use.
-1/4 male NPT x 1/4 male NPT hex nipple (Swagelok cross ref. SS-4-HLN-200 or 150. 200 is 2 inches. 150 is 1.5 inch)
-1/4 female NPT x 1/8 male NPT elbow (Swagelok cross ref. SS-4-RSE-2)
-1/8 male NPT x 1/8 male NPT elbow (Swagelok cross ref. SS-2-SE)


*The SS in front of the Swagelok part # stands for Stainless Steel. Substitute it with a B if you want brass.

5) Burkert 6011 solenoid (1/8 NPT)
This is one of the most reliable solenoids and is proven by the hobbyists.

6) Metering Valve
Metering valve is the most vital part. A good unit will provide you with a precise and constant CO2 reading.
There are a few good metering valves such as Swagelok S series (SS-SS4), Ideal V54-1-12, Hoke 1300 series and etc.,. Bear in mind that not all metering valve will work. We only use medium flow and low flow valves for our purpose. The metering valve I'm using is a Hoke 1300 series. This valve required tube fitting reducer 1/4 in. x 1/8 in tube OD (Swagelok SS-400-R-2) to mount the CO2 tubing.

Here are some regulators I built for my tanks.
IMG_4323.jpeg
IMG_2448.jpeg IMG_1238.jpeg IMG_0176.jpeg IMG_0286.jpeg IMG_0285.jpeg
Alan,
Do you sell any regulators?
Thanks,

Aak
 
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Here is another regulator I just built. This is a stainless regulator from Matheson gas and Swagelok needle valve.
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