Help identifying serval disease in my display

schafon · Jul 28, 2021

Hi everyone!
I have a 120G display tank that I didn't quite follow QT procedure with.
current livestock:
Domino Damsel, yellowtail damsel, Percula clownfish, diamond goby, firefish, 3 cleaner shrimps, 1 red blood shrimp, royal grama, sailfin tang, Wyoming Clown, and I probably forget few more.
I recently (2 weeks) purchased 2 blue hippos that were the start of this problem.
This was the first time I found hippos that don't have any signs of disease and had a great price - so I bought them.
After few days in the tank they started showing some white (salt) dots on them(probably ick), I decided to wait it out and turned on my UV light.
Few days after they did look better but from then I think it's been going downhill.
This morning I've noticed my clownfish have what seems to be Brooklynella(see pictures) and some(if not all) of the fish show some kind of white spots(see pictures).

Some information about the tank:
it's been up for 45 days now.
it's 120G with sump, filtration is a filter pad and sock-like material(cut to size).
Bio Balls dripping, Chaeto, and sponge filter.
15W UV light on the return pump.
Hang-on skimmer.
I do a weekly water change of 10%.

Water Parameters:
Ammonia - undetectable
Salinity 1.025-1.026
Phospate is high(0.4-0.6), most probably since I added uncured dry rock to the tank when I've started it.
Calcium is around 440-450.
Alkalinity is 8.5.
My LFS water test is not working right now so I can't check the other parameters.
Corals doing great!

Please let me know what would be the best course of action right now, I have another 32G bio cube tank that is 3 years old(established) with damsel and maron clown.
And another 15G tank that I've bought for QT tank but currently using for rock curing.

Pictures of my live stock:
<a href="https://ibb.co/qYLRx72"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/B2HgwcY/IMG-2325.jpg" alt="IMG-2325" border="0"></a>
<a href="https://ibb.co/Wzx1VpM"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/6tn5XJT/IMG-2332.jpg" alt="IMG-2332" border="0"></a>
<a href="https://ibb.co/nR4XJwZ"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/yVKzjNG/IMG-2337.jpg" alt="IMG-2337" border="0"></a>
<a href="https://ibb.co/Fx8Sp5y"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/GxCKmW8/IMG-2338.jpg" alt="IMG-2338" border="0"></a>
<a href="https://ibb.co/1dxxdMY"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/vQ88QhC/IMG-2339.jpg" alt="IMG-2339" border="0"></a>
<a href="https://ibb.co/fCc6c8Z"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/p3mVmWN/IMG-2340.jpg" alt="IMG-2340" border="0"></a>
<a href="https://ibb.co/SQ1n2x6"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/M8jVbhg/IMG-2349.jpg" alt="IMG-2349" border="0"></a>
<a href="https://ibb.co/vLtxNpr"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/3SJyx28/IMG-2350.jpg" alt="IMG-2350" border="0"></a>

Thanks!!

ChaosAquaculture · Jul 28, 2021

The tank is only a month and a half old correct? We’re the other fish added gradually? Or added at the same time? -kali

Goaway · Jul 28, 2021

All the fish in the photos have ich, and the last photo of the clown, looks to be some external parasite. I can't tell if the clowns are showing signs of brooks.

I am sure Praziquantel will remove the parasite, and copper is the best treatment for the ich outbreak.
Copper needs to be treated for 30 days in qt, but the aquarium must be kept fallow for 68-72 days.
@Jay Hemdal will show up and tell you when to run prazi for the parasite and rest of the ich information. He's just that much better than I will ever be at explaining things.

Lavey29 · Jul 28, 2021

Since you have a large set up and a lot of sick fish google research organic ginger for ich treatment. My LFS informed me about it but I have not used it personally. Can be used to treat entire display tank.

Jay Hemdal · Jul 28, 2021

schafon said:
Hi everyone!
I have a 120G display tank that I didn't quite follow QT procedure with.
current livestock:
Domino Damsel, yellowtail damsel, Percula clownfish, diamond goby, firefish, 3 cleaner shrimps, 1 red blood shrimp, royal grama, sailfin tang, Wyoming Clown, and I probably forget few more.
I recently (2 weeks) purchased 2 blue hippos that were the start of this problem.
This was the first time I found hippos that don't have any signs of disease and had a great price - so I bought them.
After few days in the tank they started showing some white (salt) dots on them(probably ick), I decided to wait it out and turned on my UV light.
Few days after they did look better but from then I think it's been going downhill.
This morning I've noticed my clownfish have what seems to be Brooklynella(see pictures) and some(if not all) of the fish show some kind of white spots(see pictures).

Some information about the tank:
it's been up for 45 days now.
it's 120G with sump, filtration is a filter pad and sock-like material(cut to size).
Bio Balls dripping, Chaeto, and sponge filter.
15W UV light on the return pump.
Hang-on skimmer.
I do a weekly water change of 10%.

Water Parameters:
Ammonia - undetectable
Salinity 1.025-1.026
Phospate is high(0.4-0.6), most probably since I added uncured dry rock to the tank when I've started it.
Calcium is around 440-450.
Alkalinity is 8.5.
My LFS water test is not working right now so I can't check the other parameters.
Corals doing great!

Please let me know what would be the best course of action right now, I have another 32G bio cube tank that is 3 years old(established) with damsel and maron clown.
And another 15G tank that I've bought for QT tank but currently using for rock curing.

Pictures of my live stock:
<a href="https://ibb.co/qYLRx72"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/B2HgwcY/IMG-2325.jpg" alt="IMG-2325" border="0"></a>
<a href="https://ibb.co/Wzx1VpM"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/6tn5XJT/IMG-2332.jpg" alt="IMG-2332" border="0"></a>
<a href="https://ibb.co/nR4XJwZ"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/yVKzjNG/IMG-2337.jpg" alt="IMG-2337" border="0"></a>
<a href="https://ibb.co/Fx8Sp5y"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/GxCKmW8/IMG-2338.jpg" alt="IMG-2338" border="0"></a>
<a href="https://ibb.co/1dxxdMY"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/vQ88QhC/IMG-2339.jpg" alt="IMG-2339" border="0"></a>
<a href="https://ibb.co/fCc6c8Z"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/p3mVmWN/IMG-2340.jpg" alt="IMG-2340" border="0"></a>
<a href="https://ibb.co/SQ1n2x6"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/M8jVbhg/IMG-2349.jpg" alt="IMG-2349" border="0"></a>
<a href="https://ibb.co/vLtxNpr"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/3SJyx28/IMG-2350.jpg" alt="IMG-2350" border="0"></a>

Thanks!!

I see definite ich on the fish, it is a moderate case, so you’ll need to deal with this pretty soon. There simply are not a lot of good options though. You’ve probably seen a multitude of reef safe medications out there. They aren’t marketed because they work well, but rather, that customers demand them. Effective treatments are tough, so people will grasp at straws to find a simpler treatment….these often/usually fail crept for very minor cases.
My recommendation would be to remove all of the fish and treat them either with hyposalinity or copper. Then, all the fish need to remain out of the tank for 45 to 76 days (depending on your risk tolerance). The up side to this is that you will then have a quarantine tank to use in the future!

Jay

p.s., tank transfer method won’t work because the fish would just get reinfected when you return them to the tank. Likewise, there really is no effective food or supplement that will work.

schafon · Jul 28, 2021

Hi everyone!
I've just noticed that I've created 2 posts by mistake.
But if you can please check the other post since there are more details and videos there:

Help identifying multiple disease in different fish in my DT

Hi everyone! I have a 120G display tank that I didn't quite follow QT procedure with. current livestock: Domino Damsel, yellowtail damsel, Percula clownfish, diamond goby, firefish, 3 cleaner shrimps, 1 red blood shrimp, royal grama, sailfin tang, and I probably forget few more. I recently (2...

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