Flatworm exit use and experience?

[Lavey29]

I must be feeding my wrasses to well because my flatworm population has increased. The white ones and red. Starting to affect some corals also.

I'd like to get some feedback on Flatworm Exit prior to use. Any negative affects to coral or fish? I am aware of the toxin release as flatworms die in the tank and will take necessary precautions.

Does it work well or no?

 

[Eric Cohen]

I must be feeding my wrasses to well because my flatworm population has increased. The white ones and red. Starting to affect some corals also.

I'd like to get some feedback on Flatworm Exit prior to use. Any negative affects to coral or fish? I am aware of the toxin release as flatworms die in the tank and will take necessary precautions.

Does it work well or no?

Try my flatworm Rx. Be ready to change water and add carbon after about 15 minutes of treating.....it works fast. Before you add to your tank, syphon a few flatworms into a cup and dose the cup. If you have the correct flatworms that the product treats, then you can go ahead and get as many flatworms out that you can before treating and go for it. Works super fast but the die off causes some toxins which is why you want to get as many out first and then be ready with your water change and add carbon......

 

[Rjramos]

On the red planaria it definitely works! Lots of different corals, none were affected negatively, fish neither. Follow directions and you’ll be good

 

[vetteguy53081]

I must be feeding my wrasses to well because my flatworm population has increased. The white ones and red. Starting to affect some corals also.

I'd like to get some feedback on Flatworm Exit prior to use. Any negative affects to coral or fish? I am aware of the toxin release as flatworms die in the tank and will take necessary precautions.

Does it work well or no?

I view it as an alternative and not solution in many cases. It does work but requires siphoning the dead ones daily as they can release low level toxins. certain and not all wrasses will eat them.
Removal can be accomplished by siphoning them with a 3/8" tubing into a nylon stocking and discard (sample below)
OR
wrasses such as Yellow coris, 6 line, lunare or melanurus OR even a springieri damsel which will eat them

With the number you have, for the next 2 weeks you will have to look for eggs and scrape off as there is likely some and would be future worms. Eggs are really tiny

 

[Eric Cohen]

I view it as an alternative and not solution in many cases. It does work but requires siphoning the dead ones daily as they can release low level toxins. certain and not all wrasses will eat them.
Removal can be accomplished by siphoning them with a 3/8" tubing into a nylon stocking and discard (sample below)
OR
wrasses such as Yellow coris, 6 line, lunare or melanurus OR even a springieri damsel which will eat them

With the number you have, for the next 2 weeks you will have to look for eggs and scrape off as there is likely some and would be future worms. Eggs are really tiny

That's cool...what micron is that bag?

 

[vetteguy53081]

That's cool...what micron is that bag?

Ive used 200

 

[Lavey29]

Try my flatworm Rx. Be ready to change water and add carbon after about 15 minutes of treating.....it works fast. Before you add to your tank, syphon a few flatworms into a cup and dose the cup. If you have the correct flatworms that the product treats, then you can go ahead and get as many flatworms out that you can before treating and go for it. Works super fast but the die off causes some toxins which is why you want to get as many out first and then be ready with your water change and add carbon......

This is the tricky part. They seem to stay hidden during the day when the fish are out and then explode out once lights out. So I guess it's a midnight water change. I'm sure the wife will just love that.

 

[Eric Cohen]

This is the tricky part. They seem to stay hidden during the day when the fish are out and then explode out once lights out. So I guess it's a midnight water change. I'm sure the wife will just love that.

Doesn't matter if they are hiding.....the treatment is gonna zap them in minutes. Do it when you have the time to do the water change......do not wait long after the treatment.....especially if you have a lot of flatworms. Do the cup test first....once you've confirmed that the pests are gonna roll over and die in your cup, you know the treatment is the right one and plan it for the next day or two.....

 

[Lavey29]

Any of you guys tried a blue velvet nudibranch for a natural solution for pest control? I would much rather have a flatwom predator slithering around the tank then dumping a chemical in.

 

[Eric Cohen]

Any of you guys tried a blue velvet nudibranch for a natural solution for pest control? I would much rather have a flatwom predator slithering around the tank then dumping a chemical in.

I do sell a lot of velvet nudibranch and oddly enough, a lot lately. This is definitely an option worth exploring....at least to get your population down to a minimum before treating with a chemical. I agree that's a better first option.

 

[Lavey29]

I do sell a lot of velvet nudibranch and oddly enough, a lot lately. This is definitely an option worth exploring....at least to get your population down to a minimum before treating with a chemical. I agree that's a better first option.

Cool, I am much more in favor of trying a natural solution initially. I just wonder why the wrasses aren't picking off the few on the glass during the daytime? I know my 6 line seems to find all the food he needs patrolling the rocks but he and the yellow coris seem to ignore the flatworms on the glass.

 

[vespertineblue]

I do sell a lot of velvet nudibranch and oddly enough, a lot lately. This is definitely an option worth exploring....at least to get your population down to a minimum before treating with a chemical. I agree that's a better first option.

Cool, I am much more in favor of trying a natural solution initially. I just wonder why the wrasses aren't picking off the few on the glass during the daytime? I know my 6 line seems to find all the food he needs patrolling the rocks but he and the yellow coris seem to ignore the flatworms on the glass.

Same problem, can’t find any velvet nudibranches online. Do you have any for sale?

 

[o2manyfish]

In my 560g tank, 1350g system - I had issues with planaria covering my lps corals. There were some on the glass, but not in vast numbers. But it did seem they were irritating the LPS.

I had Springeri Damsels, I had yellow coris wrasses, I had 6-line wrasses, I bought 10 velvet nudibranchs - but nobody seemed to touch the flat worms.

I ordered Salifert Flatworm Exit. I disconnected the display tank from the system and did a 70% strength dosage into the tank. I immediately setup a Vectra M pump into a large filter sock filled with carbon.

Immediately the flat worms started dying. I was surprised by the number of flatworms that were on the few Gorgonians I had that I had never seen/noticed.

Everything seemed great. And then about 45 mins after the dosage was applied to the tank the fish just started to fall to the bottom of the tank dead. It was a disaster, within minutes over 100 fish went from swimming to dead on the bottom. No gasping, no last struggles of life, just from swimming and looking beautiful, to dead still on the bottom.

It was devestating.

Dave B

 

[vetteguy53081]

I must be feeding my wrasses to well because my flatworm population has increased. The white ones and red. Starting to affect some corals also.

I'd like to get some feedback on Flatworm Exit prior to use. Any negative affects to coral or fish? I am aware of the toxin release as flatworms die in the tank and will take necessary precautions.

Does it work well or no?

I generally recommend to siphon as many as you can with a 3/8" tubing and add wrasse.... but only certain wrasse will eat them:
Yellow coris
melanurus
6 line - sometimes
Lunare

One of the best- Springieri damsel

If using flatworm exit, you will need to siphon the dead ones daily anyway as they can release low level toxins.

 

[jda]

The toxins are no joke. The product is plenty safe. If you do dose, the worms will slime up and collect in bunches once you treat. Siphon these out too. Have LOTS of fresh salt mix on hand. Borrow a few reactors from friends to run more carbon than you think.

There are more flatworms than you think.

I would treat a few more times. These subsequent treatments are easy since you don't have to worry about a lot of worms. There are some that will be near the top of the glass, etc. that can sneak through the first time.

 

[jda]

Levamisole HCL is a livestock dewormer and the same thing in the other treatments. I mix a 1/2 tsp in a 500ml water bottle and dose about 1ml per gallon of water... I think... it has been a long time. You can probably search for a recommended dose if you want to save some money. It never seemed to matter much - the chemical is safe... the melting worms are not.

 

[kribbz]

I've used Flatworm eXit twice and had some success with both. I'd say it knocks the population down but it never eliminates it. Those red worms are stubborn. The second time I used it I had a bit of a negative reaction with my SPS where they faded for a few days. I never lost anything but color noticeably faded for a few days and polyp extension was lower.

 

[Eric Cohen]

Same problem, can’t find any velvet nudibranches online. Do you have any for sale?

35 in stock right niw