FIsh in QT struggling

[Dine]

I have moved 1 clown in a qt. This was done when his mate was struck with ich or possibly velvet and I lost her. I set up a QT to treat the remaining clown and let the tank go fallow. He has been very active and eating during this time. this morning he is staying near the bottom, his breathing does appear to be labored. No detectable ammonia checked with redsea and the alert badge. salinity 1.025. Other than the breathing no detectable issues, no spots, etc. There is a little detritus in the bottom and he still seems to want to eat it when it floats by but this is a fish that is always out, always at the top, ready to greet you. suggestions?

there is .8 copper in the system at the moment (realized i purchased the wrong hannah checker so didnt go higher until i could test above 1). I did a small water change (maybe 10%) just trying to get some of the detritus out. im not sure exactly what it is so i was just trying to remove it. I do have an airstone going as of about an hour ago

 

[nereefpat]

there is .8 copper in the system at the moment (realized i purchased the wrong hannah checker so didnt go higher until i could test above 1).

Is that Coppersafe or Copper power, or ionic copper like Cupramine?

 

[threebuoys]

More info and a photo and video using white lights will be needed to help diagnose.

Why do you suspect ich or velvet?
what is the breathing rate for the fish breaths per minute)?
How long have you had the fish?

See link below

 

[Dine]

Is that Coppersafe or Copper power, or ionic copper like Cupramine?

fritz coppersafe

 

[nereefpat]

a photo and video using white lights will be needed to help diagnose.

Yes, that would be ideal.

fritz coppersafe

You will want to get the copper safe up to the 1.75-2.5 ppm range right away, if you suspect velvet or severe ich. The clown can handle it.

 

[ptrick21186]

Coppers gotta stay above 2.0 the entire quarantine

 

[Dine]

yea i get it. the coppers gotta be above 2.0. but i dont have a way of measuring above one until amazon delivers the HR tester today. I purchased what i thought was the correct hannah unit but realized after the first measurment that I had gotten the wrong one. as i do not want to overdose the tank im in limbo until i get that delivery

 

[Dine]

More info and a photo and video using white lights will be needed to help diagnose.

Why do you suspect ich or velvet?
what is the breathing rate for the fish breaths per minute)?
How long have you had the fish?

See link below

working on this. pictures i can handle, video ill have to figure out how to do that. I dont have a youtube so ill figure out how to set that up.

 

[Dine]

this is the link where we discussed ich and then possibly velvet.

Lost a clown fish. Advice.

This morning I lost 1 of 2 clowns. I believe it was Ich although the speed in which she went down makes me wonder. Clowns have been on the tank for a month. Currently the only fish. Couple zoa frags, hermits, and trochus snails. Both clown have been eating since day one. A couple weeks ago I...

www.reef2reef.com

 

[nereefpat]

yea i get it. the coppers gotta be above 2.0. but i dont have a way of measuring above one until amazon delivers the HR tester today.

Do you know how many mLs you added to get to 0.8 ppm?

Or, to get to therapeutic range, it should take a little more than 1 mL per gallon.

 

[Dine]

 

[Dine]

I can’t catch this behavior because he swims away when I try to take the picture but occasionally he lays on the bottom sideways. No for long but he’s done it a few times

 

[Dine]

 

[Dine]

Best I have been able to do without spooking him.

 

[Dine]

Breathing 112 per min. Really hard to
Say that’s completely accurate but that’s what I counted.

 

[Dine]

new symptom. he appears to be darting his head to the right quickly, fairly frequently. his time on the bottom is increasing

 

[nereefpat]

new symptom. he appears to be darting his head to the right quickly, fairly frequently. his time on the bottom is increasing

Head shaking can be a flukes symptom. Treatment for that would be Prazi. General Cure is Prazi + Metro

 

[Dine]

March 10, 2023

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[Dine]

so if Prazi is the reccomendation (ill wait until thats the consesus), I can't add that with the copper in the water right? based on earlier message i did bring the copper up by dosing 10ml more brining copper to 1.75 (checker just got here).

 

[Dine]

he appears to be declining. I appreciate everyones help so far. Should i continue to boost copper to 2.5 or should i consider prazi. I do not have enough water on hand to pull out the copper. I could dose prazi into the QT w/ the copper at 1.75 , there is an airstone going full force. alternativly i could transfer the clown into the DT (currently fishless. Has hermits, snails, 1 shrimp, couple zoa frags). and treat in the DT?