Blue ring octopus one Ebay

corbinwaltz · Jun 9, 2009

Blue ring octopus on Ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/Blue-Ring-Octopus-Live-Coral-Acanthastrea_W0QQitemZ110400346505QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item19b45f9989&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A3%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

I got a bad feeling about this.

thomasdo87 · Jun 9, 2009

lol looks perfect for my pico!!!

EDIT: lol and the fact its one of the most venomous animals in the world makes me want to pet it

Viva'sReef · Jun 9, 2009

Yeah this has bad news written all over it. I thought it was crazy for a LFS to be able to judge if someone could care for an animal like this.....how can someone do this via the internet? Do you need to send an application with past reefing experience....better yet, cephalopod experience

subielover · Jun 9, 2009

I just messaged the seller, asking what his screening process was and how he thinks he can determine over the internet if someone is capable of taking care of a very deadly animal. We shall see how he responds.

Paul_N · Jun 9, 2009

subielover said:
I just messaged the seller, asking what his screening process was and how he thinks he can determine over the internet if someone is capable of taking care of a very deadly animal. We shall see how he responds.

Qualifying question are probably:

1) Do you have a tank?
2) Do you have water in it?

Congrats! You qualify!........:squigglemouth:

Stray32 · Jun 9, 2009

Ebay needs to have rules against selling things like this. He even states that its the deadliest animal on the planet!

Viva'sReef · Jun 9, 2009

It's just plain RECOCKULOUS that Ebay prohibits the sale of Liquour etc, but then allows this. Just plain stupid if you ask me

Paul_N · Jun 9, 2009

Come on guys it's just like a lion fish, no biggie. If a lion fish stings you your hand throbs and hurts like hell and if the Blue Ring gets you, you....well....uh...die.

On a side note, is it true that there is no antivenom for the Blue Ring?

"The blue-ringed octopus is the size of a golf ball, but its venom is powerful enough to kill humans. There is no blue-ringed octopus antivenom available.
The octopus produces venom that contains tetrodotoxin, 5-hydroxytryptamine, hyaluronidase, tyramine, histamine, tryptamine, octopamine, taurine, acetylcholine, and dopamine. The major neurotoxin component of blue-ringed octopus venom was originally known as maculotoxin, but was later found to be identical to tetrodotoxin,[2] a neurotoxin which is also found in pufferfish and cone snails. Tetrodotoxin blocks sodium channels, causing motor paralysis and sometimes respiratory arrest leading to cardiac arrest due to a lack of oxygen. The toxin is created by bacteria in the salivary glands of the octopus[3].
First aid treatment is pressure on the wound and rescue breathing. It is essential, if rescue breathing is required, that it be continued until the victim begins to breathe, which may be some hours. Hospital treatment involves respiratory assistance until the toxin is washed out of the body. The symptoms vary in severity, with children being the most at risk because of their small body size. The victim might be saved if artificial respiration starts before marked cyanosis and hypotension develop. Victims who live through the first 24 hours generally go on to make a complete recovery.[4]
It is essential that immediate and full time respiratory support be given (e.g. artificial respiration/rescue breathing) even if the victim appears not to be responding. Tetrodotoxin poisoning can result in the victim being fully aware of his/her surroundings but unable to breathe. Because of the paralysis that occurs they have no way of signalling for help or any way of indicating distress. Respiratory support, together with reassurance, until medical assistance arrives ensures that the victim will generally recover well.
The blue-ringed octopus is currently one of the most toxic known sea creatures and, despite its small size, the blue-ringed octopus carries enough poison to kill 26 adult humans within minutes[5]."

Stray32 · Jun 9, 2009

Paul_PSU said:
the blue-ringed octopus carries enough poison to kill 26 adult humans within minutes[5]."

Yeah, no big deal lol. Until some kid that has a "salt tank" at home decides to buy this thing as a pet.

Anyway, I just hope the guy screens his buyers well. It is an awesome little creature.

fsu1dolfan · Jun 9, 2009

Paul_PSU said:
Come on guys it's just like a lion fish, no biggie. If a lion fish stings you your hand throbs and hurts like hell and if the Blue Ring gets you, you....well....uh...die.

On a side note, is it true that there is no antivenom for the Blue Ring?

"The blue-ringed octopus is the size of a golf ball, but its venom is powerful enough to kill humans. There is no blue-ringed octopus antivenom available.
The octopus produces venom that contains tetrodotoxin, 5-hydroxytryptamine, hyaluronidase, tyramine, histamine, tryptamine, octopamine, taurine, acetylcholine, and dopamine. The major neurotoxin component of blue-ringed octopus venom was originally known as maculotoxin, but was later found to be identical to tetrodotoxin,[2] a neurotoxin which is also found in pufferfish and cone snails. Tetrodotoxin blocks sodium channels, causing motor paralysis and sometimes respiratory arrest leading to cardiac arrest due to a lack of oxygen. The toxin is created by bacteria in the salivary glands of the octopus[3].
First aid treatment is pressure on the wound and rescue breathing. It is essential, if rescue breathing is required, that it be continued until the victim begins to breathe, which may be some hours. Hospital treatment involves respiratory assistance until the toxin is washed out of the body. The symptoms vary in severity, with children being the most at risk because of their small body size. The victim might be saved if artificial respiration starts before marked cyanosis and hypotension develop. Victims who live through the first 24 hours generally go on to make a complete recovery.[4]
It is essential that immediate and full time respiratory support be given (e.g. artificial respiration/rescue breathing) even if the victim appears not to be responding. Tetrodotoxin poisoning can result in the victim being fully aware of his/her surroundings but unable to breathe. Because of the paralysis that occurs they have no way of signalling for help or any way of indicating distress. Respiratory support, together with reassurance, until medical assistance arrives ensures that the victim will generally recover well.
The blue-ringed octopus is currently one of the most toxic known sea creatures and, despite its small size, the blue-ringed octopus carries enough poison to kill 26 adult humans within minutes[5]."

Man that sounds awesome...i wonder if he is willing to trade...i got some deadly zoas i can trade :tongue:

JuniorMC8704 · Jun 9, 2009

i didnt know Ebay allow the sale of loaded weapons...

SaraB · Jun 9, 2009

JuniorMC8704 said:
i didnt know Ebay allow the sale of loaded weapons...

Exactly! Great Point!

stunreefer · Jun 9, 2009

JuniorMC8704 said:
i didnt know Ebay allow the sale of loaded weapons...

You have to be a Premium Member :matrix:

highpower9979 · Jun 9, 2009

Is this legal in all 50 states. DONT THINK SO

Leishman · Jun 9, 2009

My LFS had one in a low tank with no lid. The Octo was in a plastic container with holes in it and a rock on top. No sign. No warnings. The worst part is that this LFS is in a huge tent and has ~27,000g of saltwater tanks in 3 back to back rows with one staff member out there if you are lucky. Most of the time you have to go back to the lawn and garden section to find someone if you want to buy anything. This place has also carried 6' eels, white tip reef sharks and barracuddas!

It's all OK 'till they need a body bag.

Reef Empire · Jun 9, 2009

These show up on availability lists quite often, and we've always joked about getting one. But JOKED only... His pet? Seriously? I was reading somewhere that they have the ability to live out of water for up to 10 minutes, and are fairly adept at moving around on land... Freaky.

And you are correct Paul_PSU... As far as I know, there is no anti-venom for Blue Rings. They also anesthetize the area they bite, so you don't even realize you've been bit until its waaay too late.

Reef Pets · Jun 9, 2009

I have to say, the Blue Ring Octopus is absolutely amazing and one of the oceans most beautiful creatures. But.... to sell one on eBay or one any where at all is insane in my opinion. If this gets in the hands of the wrong person, well, it could be a deadly choice for a 500.00 creature.
Some creatures should only be kept in the ocean..

Ldogg · Jun 9, 2009

Leishman said:
My LFS had one in a low tank with no lid. The Octo was in a plastic container with holes in it and a rock on top. No sign. No warnings. The worst part is that this LFS is in a huge tent and has ~27,000g of saltwater tanks in 3 back to back rows with one staff member out there if you are lucky. Most of the time you have to go back to the lawn and garden section to find someone if you want to buy anything. This place has also carried 6' eels, white tip reef sharks and barracuddas!

It's all OK 'till they need a body bag.

I think I know who your talking about..... :crossedlips: